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CJ Munn

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Started On : 27-May-2005 at 01:30:02 PM, #Views : 1799

Topic Subject : Re: Casting Hockey player

thanks for sharing Roy's technique. And I didn't mean to suggest that
Roy's way was easy, simply that I haven't had any trouble casting cloth
in the ways I've used it so far. But yes, you're right. Just because I
find something easy, doesn't mean everyone would. Didn't mean to
suggest any old chimp could do it.

I've cast quite complex fabrics from fishnet to fully laced boned
corsets using plain old fabric softener as a release, and I've dunk
dipped muslin in plaster and formed drapes and togas and such like
after the bodycast was completed to some success. And as I said before

I've cast straight over man made fibres without any release or special
precautions but your/Roy's way sounds much more appropriate for this
job. I'm not very experienced with resins and such like so I shall be
interested to see how the original poster's work turns out and to have
a go myself when i move into my new studio. Everyone has different ways
of doing things, which is why it's always interesting to share.

x

On 27 May 2005, at 18:00, aliforum@lifecasting.org wrote:

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> Post Date : Friday 27th of May 2005 01:00:04 PM
> Posted by : "Ed McCormick" info@artmolds.com
>
> RE: Casting Hockey player:--
> Really?
>
> So easy? Big pieces piece of cake? Soaking in plaster? I don't think
> so.
> Pasting greasy releases? Hmmm I wouldn't do that either.
>
> Sport shirt more difficult you say? I respectfully disagree. Do I have
> to
> send an example of the exact hockey shirt or can you take my assurance
> that
> it can be accomplished with realism?. I have a bronze bust in a sport
> shirt
> complete down to the fabric weave.
>
> No dipping
> No dripping
> No grease
>
> But you are right. If it was easy everyone would be doing it. It is an
> acquired skill.
>
> Why not use my suggestion to contact Roy Butler? He can use the
> encouragement.
>
> Anyway . . . general equipment needed to cast sport shirt. Rolled
> newspaper
> to stuff the shirt for support. Sharp hook to pull out folds as they
> dry.
> Dowel/rod to manipulate folds to keep them from drying too sharply.
> Once the
> shirt is supported in place. Lightly spray with clear lacquer to
> stiffen. It
> will need several light coats. Adjust any folds with hook/dowel that
> the
> spray has modified. Once hardened,paint the shirt with a very thin
> quick
> drying two-part resin. This is not a viscous resin, but water-thin
> special
> formula. Again watch the folds as they will deform somewhat as you
> paint.
> Use the hook and dowel to adjust. Watch for drips. Call Roy Butler for
> details it is a method that he pioneered.
>
> Warmest regards
>
> Ed
>
> Hello Ed McCormick
>
>
>
> Post Date : Friday 27th of May 2005 12:00:02 PM
> Posted by : "CJ Munn" cj@rockabelly.co.uk
>
> Re: Casting Hockey player:--
> I agree casting fabric isn't a problem, but the original poster was
> concerned about the fabric not looking wet which did sound a bit more
> challenging. Most techniques for working with fabric involve either
> soaking the fabric first or dipping it in plaster to add after or
> pasting on some sort of greasy or slippery release before applying
> alginate. The Roy Butler piece is gorgeous, but when working on large
> flowing pieces of fabric it's easier to move the folds of the wet cloth
> to look how you want them. Not so easy to get a sports shirt to sit
> naturally and the fabric to behave as if it is neither wet nor weighed
> down with the alginate itself as it is applied. Other than the methods
> I've mentioned do you (or anyone else) know of any other 'dry' fabric
> techniques Ed?
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 May 2005, at 16:30, aliforum@lifecasting.org wrote:
>
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>
>>
>>
>> Post Date : Friday 27th of May 2005 11:30:44 AM
>> Posted by : "Ed McCormick" info@artmolds.com
>>
>> RE: Casting Hockey player:--
>> Casting fabric is not as difficult as this thread makes out . . .
>> though it
>> requires a bit of practice. I am attaching a picture of a Roy Butler
>> piece
>> which is almost 90% fabric based. Roy has stopped contributing to the
>> forum
>> because of past rude responses. But he does read it.
>>
>> Roy has shown me his marvelous technique which I have used on a few
>> pieces
>> with exquisite results.
>>
>> Perhaps members can convince him to rejoin the forum as he a font of
>> technical expertise. Send your fan mail to: rbicom@earthlink.net
>>
>> Warmest regards
>>
>> Ed
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aliforum@lifecasting.org [mailto:aliforum@lifecasting.org]
>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:00 AM
>> To: info@artmolds.com
>> Subject: RE: Casting Hockey player( Message No. 476)
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>> Hello Ed McCormick
>>
>>
>>
>> Post Date : Friday 27th of May 2005 11:00:01 AM
>> Posted by : "John Collins" johncollins@concreterepair.com
>>
>> RE: Casting Hockey player:--
>>
>> Maybe the fabric can be treated first with a release agent or treat
>> the
>> fabric with a clear acrylic?
>>
>> John
>> Laguna Beach, Ca
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: aliforum@lifecasting.org [mailto:aliforum@lifecasting.org]
>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:31 AM
>> To: johncollins@concreterepair.com
>> Subject: Re: Casting Hockey player( Message No. 475)
>>
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>> Hello John Collins
>>
>>
>>
>> Post Date : Friday 27th of May 2005 09:30:01 AM
>> Posted by : "CJ Munn" cj@rockabelly.co.uk
>>
>> Re: Casting Hockey player:--
>> I don't know if you could get a sample of the fabric of his shirt or
>> similar, but I have managed to cast some fabrics without any release
>> agent. It works better on fabrics with a very tight weave

>> particularly
>> modern man-made slightly shiny fabrics. If you can get a duplicate you
>> could run some tests. You have to use a very strong, thick mix of
>> alginate and pull it off very slowly...in some ways it's easier if
>> your
>> model can slip out of the shirt when you come to demould him, leaving
>> the loose shirt still stuck in the mould and then you can take all the
>> time you want to carefully peel the fabric out.
>>
>> other than that, the only thing i can think of is to sculpt on a fake
>> shirt after you've done the cast.
>>
>> cj x
>>
>> On 25 May 2005, at 05:57, aliforum@lifecasting.org wrote:
>>
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>>> through http://www.Amazon.com
>>> -------------------------------------------------------->
>>>
>>> Hello CJ Munn
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Post Date : Wednesday 25th of May 2005 12:57:06 AM
>>> Posted by : "Jimmy F" wave@kooee.com.au
>>>
>>> Casting Hockey player:--
>>> Hi guys and gals, I havent posted on here in quite sometime, so
>>> hopfully some of you can give your opinion to my delmema....
>>> I have been commisioned to create a sculpture or a Hockey player and
>>> a
>>> figureskater. The fingure skater will not be too hard as she can be
>>> in
>>> a slim tight suite of some kind, but my problem is with the hockey
>>> player... Because the jersey is a loose fitting type, im not sure how
>>> i will be able to make the sculpture look proper without it looking
>>> like a wet soggy shirt. Secondly the skate blade will be so small and
>>> thin, what would be the best way to support this sculpture for both
>>> the figure skater and the hockey player.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions???
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Jimmy
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
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>> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
>> casting
>>
>> create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members
>> with
>> forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
>> effectiveness and
>>
>> advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
>> art
>> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
>> casting
>>
>> create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members
>> with
>> forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
>> effectiveness and
>> advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>>
>>
>>
>> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
>> art and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
>> casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
>> members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance
>> their effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic
>> success.
>>
>
>
>
> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
> art
> and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
> casting
>
> create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its members
> with
> forums to exchange information, resources to enhance their
> effectiveness and
> advance opportunities for their artistic success.
>
>
>
> ALI is an international organization whose members are engaged in the
> art and creative industries. Its purpose is to promote the art of life
> casting, create public awareness of this unique art form, provide its
> members with forums to exchange information, resources to enhance
> their effectiveness and advance opportunities for their artistic
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